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We are pleased to release our new addition to Dispenser.tf - Market.

Here is a short FAQ about the new site, hopefully it will answer most commonly asked questions.

1. What is the difference between Dispenser.tf market and the Steam's community market?

Here is a few:

a. Our base credit is "Key" and "Bitcoin".
b. We feature trading between Bitcoin, Steam gifts (including untradable ones) and key interchanging.
c. Our fee is much lower than Steam market's, which should result in lowered item price.
d. We do not have the design flaw that the final exchange price only follows the user's input price, but ignoring if there are better price orders on the book.

2. Why make a market system at all?

We have been criticized for being too buyer unfriendly for having a poor search system and a somewhat complicated interface. The old system could not be further improved due to technical difficulties. For example, we could sort items by price as we did not have a common currency. We hope a market system can solve many of these problems and at the same time adds useful features. Also, there is a need to change the business model so that the website is actually self-sustainable and rewarding for increasing the amount of users. In our old model, more people using the website gives us no real benefit but paying more for the maintenance.

3. What will happen to the old system?

The old system will be kept for now. If you prefer the old style, you still can create those 'tradition trades'. However, we will no longer list these trades under the main page and search also won't support it. As a seller, that means you will have to send out your trade links directly to your buyers. The old system won't be developed much anymore. It's only kept to waive fee for sellers who have their own customers base and do not rely on the site to get exposure.

4. What is the new fee system?

We will be charging fee to support the long-term development of the site. It is a progressive structure that the fee percent is based on the volume traded in 30 days.

June is going to be the public beta testing period. We will not be taking any fees until July 13 BTC issue is resolved. But the trade volume you have made in this period will still be counted, which means your fee could be as low as 0.25% once we start taking fee.

5. Are there any other updates to the site?

In addition to the market, we have made two very important updates to fix certain important problems.

a. CS:GO trading no longer uses Valve's abandoned API. There should be no longer any downtime for CS:GO trading and at the same time we have added skin, exteriors and various item info to all CS:GO items.

b. Gem, trading cards and other community items now will be distributed via centralized bots, to bypass a limitation added by Valve recently that disabled limited accounts (including our bots) for trading these items. You may now notice trade offers coming from non-shop bots when you exchange these items.

c. Lots of bug fixes and an interface change, mainly to adapt to the market system.

6. So, how should I get started?

As a buyer, the only real change about purchasing item is that there is one more step involved: depositing keys for credit. After you have convert your keys to credit, you will search and buy your items just like how you used to, in a slightly different interface. But if you have experience in the Steam market or other similar markets, our market should not be difficult to use at all. It is like Steam market with keys and Bitcoin as currency. Please read the FAQ if you need some help.

As a seller, making orders may be more troublesome than before if you have many different types of items, due to the limitation that you can only update one market at a time. But now you have more options for your trades, for example selling a gift for 6.05 keys, or re-selling gifts by putting ask and bid orders in the same market etc. We will continue to improve the interface so that handling a lot of gifts could be easier. Before creating orders, please make sure you are in the correct market (key/BTC). Please also remember the price is in TF2 keys.

NOTE: If you have Steam community items prior to the update, please re-deposit them all. We need to re-index these items.
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Joto, you are using the csgo keys from us for 1.06 and selling it on your own site for 1.08 ??? Explain please.

http://dispenser.tf/shop/3968/

Explain what? Even if we allow people to withdraw CS:GO keys the deposit and withdraw rate won't be the same. Or else we are going to be a banking service and a slight change of the key prices would hurt us very much.

But YOU HAVE CREATED a banking service !!!


Bad system implanted
GL with that
who wants to change the key to trade something that is worth less than the key
this system harassing buyer and sellers.. mainly buyer
you will lose a lot of traders

You can buy ref/BTC etc. to take away the remaining if you really want to.


But i dont won t buy ref or BTC
If i want buy something that cost 5 ref i want pay it with ref and not with key

Basically you made your version of Steam market

Joto, you are using the csgo keys from us for 1.06 and selling it on your own site for 1.08 ??? Explain please.

http://dispenser.tf/shop/3968/

Explain what? Even if we allow people to withdraw CS:GO keys the deposit and withdraw rate won't be the same. Or else we are going to be a banking service and a slight change of the key prices would hurt us very much.


Its just, you are using the keys from us for 1.06 and selling it for 1.08 for your own profit. When you add the csgo withdrawing, then selling the keys, not now. Now its like cheating, stealing ?

PS. you have make this problem with the new sistem, not me or someting else.

JOTO, just give the BIG ****** for sellers, he dont care about us he just want money,
Search is bad always you need to put to key then search, because he want to sell for bitcoin only(more somedays and he will puty credit card,wskrill and others payments kinguin and g2a accept)
--> Old trades dont appear on search, before we can have some sales now nothing.
Another:
--> hu im selling a restricted copie of:
http://dispenser.tf/market/10414/
this is south america lock on old system i can show this is locked for the region oh wait, i put this on old trades and show here on market, its nice but need to be fixed.
Problem now peoples cant link to external site and appear on search:
easy way to fix
on the WISH LISTS, of old style trades, put a option of accepting Market credit, that will be easy, i know if you put 3 Keys you auto added to credit, but with credit in wishlist will be a lot better because we will be able to sell for old customer in the old style and a the same time sell for 2,9 Keys in credit,


In a big resume he want to make a site like kinguin or g2a a bit more automated and less fees,

This thread though. Joto has the patience of a saint

Joto, you are using the csgo keys from us for 1.06 and selling it on your own site for 1.08 ??? Explain please.

http://dispenser.tf/shop/3968/

Explain what? Even if we allow people to withdraw CS:GO keys the deposit and withdraw rate won't be the same. Or else we are going to be a banking service and a slight change of the key prices would hurt us very much.


Its just, you are using the keys from us for 1.06 and selling it for 1.08 for your own profit. When you add the csgo withdrawing, then selling the keys, not now. Now its like cheating, stealing ?

PS. you have make this problem with the new sistem, not me or someting else.

So how about this explanation: We make a website, we should make no profit and take all the risks.

Okay about key rates: We should do the same for TF2 keys too actually. But since it is used as a credit base here there is literally no risk for us that its price would change. But anything else that is not used as a currency here (like CS:GO keys, ref, ToD tickets etc.), if we are to accept deposit of them we must set a more expensive withdraw rate to ensure they do not become the dominate item here. Hopefully you understand the logic behind. But looking at your posts I guess you don't.

A simpler explanation: We plan to allow people to choose what CS:GO keys to withdraw, so let's say the rate of deposit and withdraw is the same, we would end up with a very narrow selection of keys because most of the good keys are going to be swapped out for free.

JOTO, just give the BIG ****** for sellers, he dont care about us he just want money,
Search is bad always you need to put to key then search, because he want to sell for bitcoin only(more somedays and he will puty credit card,wskrill and others payments kinguin and g2a accept)
--> Old trades dont appear on search, before we can have some sales now nothing.
Another:
--> hu im selling a restricted copie of:
http://dispenser.tf/market/10414/
this is south america lock on old system i can show this is locked for the region oh wait, i put this on old trades and show here on market, its nice but need to be fixed.
Problem now peoples cant link to external site and appear on search:
easy way to fix
on the WISH LISTS, of old style trades, put a option of accepting Market credit, that will be easy, i know if you put 3 Keys you auto added to credit, but with credit in wishlist will be a lot better because we will be able to sell for old customer in the old style and a the same time sell for 2,9 Keys in credit,


In a big resume he want to make a site like kinguin or g2a a bit more automated and less fees,

Not going to read you anymore. Learn how to speak properly and use less of your own assumptions, then maybe we can talk.

Joto, you are using the csgo keys from us for 1.06 and selling it on your own site for 1.08 ??? Explain please.

http://dispenser.tf/shop/3968/

Explain what? Even if we allow people to withdraw CS:GO keys the deposit and withdraw rate won't be the same. Or else we are going to be a banking service and a slight change of the key prices would hurt us very much.


Its just, you are using the keys from us for 1.06 and selling it for 1.08 for your own profit. When you add the csgo withdrawing, then selling the keys, not now. Now its like cheating, stealing ?

PS. you have make this problem with the new sistem, not me or someting else.

So how about this explanation: We make a website, we should make no profit and take all the risks.


No one says you do not have to earn
but by this system you earn on buyers and sellers at the same time

Joto, you are using the csgo keys from us for 1.06 and selling it on your own site for 1.08 ??? Explain please.

http://dispenser.tf/shop/3968/

Explain what? Even if we allow people to withdraw CS:GO keys the deposit and withdraw rate won't be the same. Or else we are going to be a banking service and a slight change of the key prices would hurt us very much.


Its just, you are using the keys from us for 1.06 and selling it for 1.08 for your own profit. When you add the csgo withdrawing, then selling the keys, not now. Now its like cheating, stealing ?

PS. you have make this problem with the new sistem, not me or someting else.

So how about this explanation: We make a website, we should make no profit and take all the risks.


No one says you do not have to earn
but by this system you earn on buyers and sellers at the same time

So who else is there?
I do not plan to earn on buyers actually, you have a wide selection of choice to avoid being "earned" by us. But you must emphasize on some edge cases.

So you decided that after July 6 you will be getting all CS:GO keys and still making fee for selling? Are you 100% sure about this?

Can this 'bid' and 'ask' be changed to 'buy' and 'sell' :)

So you decided that after July 6 you will be getting all CS:GO keys and still making fee for selling? Are you 100% sure about this?

May delay fee a week or so because the CS:GO withdraw system is still not released and tested.

sorry for asking again and thanks in advance!
is there any possibility to get the link of the trades/old search method? ( no need to improve, just as it was)
I think it can help many buyers like me to find best option. Now i am searching through tf2outpost, but most link are not updated and not even a half are listed. I think people who bought VIP should have this service. What do you think?

sorry for asking again and thanks in advance!
is there any possibility to get the link of the trades/old search method? ( no need to improve, just as it was)
I think it can help many buyers like me to find best option. Now i am searching through tf2outpost, but most link are not updated and not even a half are listed. I think people who bought VIP should have this service. What do you think?


http://prntscr.com/7ofqd4
Right click, copy link

sorry for asking again and thanks in advance!
is there any possibility to get the link of the trades/old search method? ( no need to improve, just as it was)
I think it can help many buyers like me to find best option. Now i am searching through tf2outpost, but most link are not updated and not even a half are listed. I think people who bought VIP should have this service. What do you think?


http://prntscr.com/7ofqd4
Right click, copy link


Thanks for answer although what I am asking is for the search method where you see all trade offer listed. The former search method

I see now that the Dispenser Market / Credit System is much more improved and it shows that it has great potential in the future too. I have a few questions for you Joto, I would be very greatful if you could answer them in this topic with a reply if you have time:
1) Why is the credits changed to 0.0000 ? (example: 5.0000, isn't it easier as it was "0.00"?)
2) Will you be keeping the current Credit rates for CS:GO and TF2 Keys or will it change from time to time?
3) When will the fees apply because I read it that fees will be later or after the "Beta" Market System ends?
4) How much will be the fees for us Sellers on the site? And fees will only apply to Sellers?
5) Will the "Old System Trade" get a search part available or will it remain like this?

- It would be great if the Old System Trade will remain like this or get some separate search option too, I know that this will help a lot of Buyers and Sellers too so they can decide which system is best for them and for their needs. It doesn't need any improvements if it can't get or if it's too difficult to manage it but the Search option would be greatly appreciated by most of the Sellers, Buyers and newcomers too. Lots of people like and know how to Trade with the Old System and they don't like the Credit system as much as they do like the Old Trade style. I must add this too: Because the Old System Search / Trade this Dispenser site is well known for it and popular because of it, so I think it deserves the respect because it brought so many Sellers, Buyers and new people too.