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We are pleased to release our new addition to Dispenser.tf - Market.

Here is a short FAQ about the new site, hopefully it will answer most commonly asked questions.

1. What is the difference between Dispenser.tf market and the Steam's community market?

Here is a few:

a. Our base credit is "Key" and "Bitcoin".
b. We feature trading between Bitcoin, Steam gifts (including untradable ones) and key interchanging.
c. Our fee is much lower than Steam market's, which should result in lowered item price.
d. We do not have the design flaw that the final exchange price only follows the user's input price, but ignoring if there are better price orders on the book.

2. Why make a market system at all?

We have been criticized for being too buyer unfriendly for having a poor search system and a somewhat complicated interface. The old system could not be further improved due to technical difficulties. For example, we could sort items by price as we did not have a common currency. We hope a market system can solve many of these problems and at the same time adds useful features. Also, there is a need to change the business model so that the website is actually self-sustainable and rewarding for increasing the amount of users. In our old model, more people using the website gives us no real benefit but paying more for the maintenance.

3. What will happen to the old system?

The old system will be kept for now. If you prefer the old style, you still can create those 'tradition trades'. However, we will no longer list these trades under the main page and search also won't support it. As a seller, that means you will have to send out your trade links directly to your buyers. The old system won't be developed much anymore. It's only kept to waive fee for sellers who have their own customers base and do not rely on the site to get exposure.

4. What is the new fee system?

We will be charging fee to support the long-term development of the site. It is a progressive structure that the fee percent is based on the volume traded in 30 days.

June is going to be the public beta testing period. We will not be taking any fees until July 13 BTC issue is resolved. But the trade volume you have made in this period will still be counted, which means your fee could be as low as 0.25% once we start taking fee.

5. Are there any other updates to the site?

In addition to the market, we have made two very important updates to fix certain important problems.

a. CS:GO trading no longer uses Valve's abandoned API. There should be no longer any downtime for CS:GO trading and at the same time we have added skin, exteriors and various item info to all CS:GO items.

b. Gem, trading cards and other community items now will be distributed via centralized bots, to bypass a limitation added by Valve recently that disabled limited accounts (including our bots) for trading these items. You may now notice trade offers coming from non-shop bots when you exchange these items.

c. Lots of bug fixes and an interface change, mainly to adapt to the market system.

6. So, how should I get started?

As a buyer, the only real change about purchasing item is that there is one more step involved: depositing keys for credit. After you have convert your keys to credit, you will search and buy your items just like how you used to, in a slightly different interface. But if you have experience in the Steam market or other similar markets, our market should not be difficult to use at all. It is like Steam market with keys and Bitcoin as currency. Please read the FAQ if you need some help.

As a seller, making orders may be more troublesome than before if you have many different types of items, due to the limitation that you can only update one market at a time. But now you have more options for your trades, for example selling a gift for 6.05 keys, or re-selling gifts by putting ask and bid orders in the same market etc. We will continue to improve the interface so that handling a lot of gifts could be easier. Before creating orders, please make sure you are in the correct market (key/BTC). Please also remember the price is in TF2 keys.

NOTE: If you have Steam community items prior to the update, please re-deposit them all. We need to re-index these items.
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Do you have any plans to implement a measure to prevent spams like this https://dispenser.tf/market/3555/ ?

I realize the primary draw of this site is game trading, but I have a concern and question:

* If the minimum deposit is 1 key, I see that turning off any buyer who is looking to buy small time stuff. I mean, a key is around 20 ref now. That's an utterly massive deposit just to buy small time stuff (from the TF2 perspective). Some may not mind it if they expect to do a lot of repeat business here, but others who just want to buy one small thing, or aren't sure if they will come back, may choose to shop elsewhere.

Bottom line, this runs the risk of turning away small time and infrequent buyers who don't want to spend anymore than they have to, including those wanting to buy games priced at 1-2 refs. I see that you are still going to allow hard links to the old shop for now, but losing the search engine to the old system is bound to hurt.

Question: How will this system allow untradable games to be traded? Is there any risk of Steam TOS violation there?

There are actually very few people who only spend 1-2 ref here. The old ref credit system was very underused because there are less people who trade TF2 items nowadays. And there are not many popular games at a price lower than $2.

Trading untradable game gifts may not violate Steam TOS. But it is almost certain that if a buyer has bought any revoked gifts he will not be able to get anything back from Steam.


Something for this, i will be now offensive, sorry for it and sory for english, i hope you will understand me.
You will lose many users for this market, because, again because buyers don't give a fuck about doing more then 2-3 klick to buy some game. NOW, if they want to buy some game, they need first to deposit keys and then to buy the game, i think this are to much work, they will be again add me because many of the buyers don't have more keys or refs or something then this game worth, and for to much work to buy game from dispenser market too.
So, for buying a game like 1,2 keys they need to put 2 keys example. And the buyers can't deposit the rest back, because its just 0,8..

And yes, i think no one will be give link for market if they not have the best price, how you will ad your site ? Bacuse with the old style, the ad are we, not you. Now with the market, you need to be the ad for this.

In my eyes, the first contact with market are realy good, but when you see 2 and more times, its really don't worth.

We do not have to make a new system if the old one can support things like 0.5 keys.
There won't be a CS:GO key credit, but we will accept CS:GO key at about 1.08 key credit.


You don't need make new system, you just need to put 1 wishlist more, i really don't know why you don't agree here. This are for your site and your buyers/sellers.

On the left "Orders" Button


Thank you.

I have other question for joto, if i put some game for x keys and x refs, can we have some 4th option to put x,x keys ?
Example, i have put game for 2 keys and 9 refs, can we have some 4th option to put 2,5k keys ? So the trade from the old style can be put on market. The 4th option can be invisible for buyers, its just for market.

Some other question for credit, just see the pic: http://prntscr.com/7i18vz
We just need one more credit for csgo keys, its this possible ?

We do not have to make a new system if the old one can support things like 0.5 keys.
There won't be a CS:GO key credit, but we will accept CS:GO key at about 1.08 key credit.


u can add one more wishlist for selling in market. example we can sell for 7 keys and 10 ref (this for old system) or 7.5 keys (for new system) if people will buy with old system they can choose 7 keys and 10 ref option, if they will use market 7.5 keys. i think its easy for you.
with current system we have to make 2x trade for this, one for market one for old style.

also still waiting price range for market (x.99 thing)

u can add one more wishlist for selling in market. example we can sell for 7 keys and 10 ref (this for old system) or 7.5 keys (for new system) if people will buy with old system they can choose 7 keys and 10 ref option, if they will use market 7.5 keys. i think its easy for you.
with current system we have to make 2x trade for this, one for market one for old style.

also still waiting price range for market (x.99 thing
)

Thank you for explain, i have bad english so i can't explain so good. I have mean same like this.

On the left "Orders" Button


Thank you.

I have other question for joto, if i put some game for x keys and x refs, can we have some 4th option to put x,x keys ?
Example, i have put game for 2 keys and 9 refs, can we have some 4th option to put 2,5k keys ? So the trade from the old style can be put on market. The 4th option can be invisible for buyers, its just for market.

Some other question for credit, just see the pic: http://prntscr.com/7i18vz
We just need one more credit for csgo keys, its this possible ?

We do not have to make a new system if the old one can support things like 0.5 keys.
There won't be a CS:GO key credit, but we will accept CS:GO key at about 1.08 key credit.


u can add one more wishlist for selling in market. example we can sell for 7 keys and 10 ref (this for old system) or 7.5 keys (for new system) if people will buy with old system they can choose 7 keys and 10 ref option, if they will use market 7.5 keys. i think its easy for you.
with current system we have to make 2x trade for this, one for market one for old style.

also still waiting price range for market (x.99 thing

+1905

why we cant have csgo key credit ? tf2 key 1,95 € csgo keys 2.42 € in the steam market


im mostly not using tf2outpost or other trade websites ,only add my games into dispenser and buyers using search system buy my games , now old search system gone and i dont have buyers anymore

why we cant have csgo key credit ? tf2 key 1,95 € csgo keys 2.42 € in the steam market


im mostly not using tf2outpost or other trade websites ,only add my games into dispenser and buyers using search system buy my games , now old search system gone and i dont have buyers anymore

We will have CS:GO key credit.

I haven't really checked indepth or looked at the comments, but after reading most of the help\market page here's what I think could be better.

Preferably I would like to see the 'fee' moved to the store, so that customers don't experience awkward prices such as 1,005 keys or feel like they getting a poor deal due to the fees.

Another thing I think would help is bringing back the no-login function where a trade offer link could be posted. Maybe automatically round up the price of the item and have any leftover credits automatically added to their account (based on their SteamID). Where remaining credit is automatically used during their next purchase.

Tried opening an ask order for 2x Garry's Mod: nothing happens when I click on "create as"
When I try and open a bid with just 1 copy, I get this error: "There are not enough inventory in your shop to open this ask order."
What? My shope page says this:
SHOP INVENTORY (1014/2000)

Is it just me, or the withdraw section disappeared for everyone from the key credit subsite?

Only deposit option appears however I have 1 key inside the system.

Checked up on dispenser after not using it for a few months, yah sorry not depositing keys just to buy a random game.

I totally understand you need to find a way to keep your selves sustained but this doesn't work for me. I barely trust the bots as it is, how the hell am I supposed to trust you with my keys?

Can I even withdraw?

Seriously boooooo.

Is it just me, or the withdraw section disappeared for everyone from the key credit subsite?

Only deposit option appears however I have 1 key inside the system.

Happened to me before, you need more than 1 key credit to withdraw it for some reason.

A search for both systems would be better for the site. So everyone can choose what they want to use.

There is no point because the old search system could not be improved or fixed. There basically are two major problems:

1. There is no way to sort price.

2. The trade result always contains some useless result because either A) Sellers put hundred of different items to a pool trade and B) Placeholder or troll trades.

The searching was not useful but only needed because there was no better alternatives. I believe most people's sales come from TF2Outpost but not the search here. That is why a reform on the search is needed in our opinion.


Hi Joto, I'm buyer and all the games I have bought were with old search system method. It's true that this search method is difficult to improve but we don't want you to improveit, we just wanted to leave it just like it was, so we can keep using it. So we will have two search options, one for the market as it is now, and the former one for old trades, no need to order or improve it.

I don't how many people use only tf2outpost, but i could say that myself and many people I know used that old search system to check if there were cheaper options or "bundle offers" for the games.

This way like it is now it is impossible to check if there is cheaper price than the one in market.

Yeah, it would be great if it would be implemented both the Old System Trade Search and the Market Search too, so everybody can search and use whatever they want / need.

A search for both systems would be better for the site. So everyone can choose what they want to use.

There is no point because the old search system could not be improved or fixed. There basically are two major problems:

1. There is no way to sort price.

2. The trade result always contains some useless result because either A) Sellers put hundred of different items to a pool trade and B) Placeholder or troll trades.

The searching was not useful but only needed because there was no better alternatives. I believe most people's sales come from TF2Outpost but not the search here. That is why a reform on the search is needed in our opinion.

Wrong, lots of resellers and bigger traders / buyers Search on Dispenser for Tradable or cheaper games. I sold thousands of gifts for resellers who were only searching on Dispenser. You don't need to fix, improve or do anything for the Old Search / Trade System. Just make it so it's available to choose between Market and Old Trade System, done. If it's doable of course, I know 90% of Sellers would agree on this one.