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Some days ago I found that my bot lost three gifts (8/28)

But I couldn't check my bot's transaction history of dispenser web

So I reported about my bot's inventory to steam supporter

I got answer from steam supporter

joto got 3copy of witcher2 from my bot in 26/8

(my bot history link => http://dispenser.tf/bot/163/inventoryhistory )



I reported this in dispenser forum some days ago => https://dispenser.tf/forum/view/20317/

sometimes items were not loaded in the web cause of bug



long time ago, I have same experience my bot lost gifts although not reboke

but i didn't any report to steam supporter

just i closed my eyes at that time

However, Today I have to say.



frankly speaking, We do not know the hacking well that occurred some time ago

we just read contents of 3 lines about occur of hacking

also steam supporters can't trace BTC

We just hear that zoto said and we give huge trust to him

Of course I trust joto as like you, just i want to say about your pure belief



almost users don't complain that zoto dont use his items(incluse his bot) for compensation

although joto have heavy responsibility about dispenser problem

(I don't have discontent of his plan about compensation , just I want to tell different perspective)


also joto can control all bot of dispenser as like Gods



Morality and sense of Responsibility of Zoto is very Important to Everybody



Only I want Truth, I don't want to recover of lost gifts

Happily I can give them to zotto by present


I was helped many times about bug by zoto

I was thanks about that to zoto although someone says zoto's duty




I want to say to all dispenser users


Please Do not remain an unconcerned spectator and Do not look on with folded arms


This is Yours


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That's odd seeing Joto withdrawing items out of your bot without returning it back. O.o
So Joto took 3 copies of witcher 2 but why did he? You mean Joto withdrawing items and he doesn't return it back to your bot is a bug that has also happened many times before unless you notify him? You mean Joto is not aware himself he's doing it?

All i can tell is that i am trading here > 1year, traded ~6k gifts via dispenser, and 0 gifts were "stolen". I keep record of every single gift sold, and i am 100% sure nothing is missing.

I sometimes see joto himself withdrawing gifts for some careless buyers, who rejected their offers or something (i saw record in forum where user stated that he bought tradable dead rising 2 from me and rejected it and i later saw joto withdrawing it). I also recount credit when withdrawing keys, so stealing from credit (or me stealing from dispenser) is also unlikely.

It makes 0 sense for yoto to steal some gifts and hurt his business. Also if i were Joto and wanted to steal gifts, i would remove history entries from history log.

As for your negative balance thing - i do agree that dispenser (Joto) handled that thing really wrong. What should have been done is setting credit to 0 for those users which got negative credit after recalculation. Leaving it below zero was like punishing clueless users for dispensers own bugs and with 0 proof that those users actually withdraw more keys then they had in credit. But this is whole another issue, not related with this "stealing" thing.

I sometimes see joto himself withdrawing gifts for some careless buyers, who rejected their offers or something (i saw record in forum where user stated that he bought tradable dead rising 2 from me and rejected it and i later saw joto withdrawing it). I also recount credit when withdrawing keys, so stealing from credit (or me stealing from dispenser) is also unlikely.

This makes sense I think. But I wonder why not just re-send using the bots' account itself when he's already logged in instead of taking it to his account to take it out then adjust the record. It's clean history than seeing his account taking something out make it look like a stealing act.

Anyway, I'm sure Joto will explain this more to zkminut. He might be just way too busy on other matters. Maybe dispenser.tf needs a ticket system too? But forum might be better still so we can all see what's going on... :)

Here is your gifts:

Also a database log for you:

The Witcher 2: Assassins of Kings Enhanced Edition Key Credit ★Nipsey★'s Item Shop (jotoidle119, 27570) zkminut's Item Shop (jotoidle44, 26614) 17495 67073 1.78000000 1.78000000 1.78000000 3.00000000 Aug. 12, 2015, 8:54 p.m.

So you have already took credit for these 3 games and this guy could not collect them for like 2 weeks. I just took them out and sent him.

Maybe you can ask the buyer and see if he had bought them from you: http://steamcommunity.com/id/Kush1990/

Your accusation is BS as I have no reason to steal 3 x 1.78 keys when there are so many other high value items. You also did not lose 86 credit during the database backup error. The credit you see when we first opened the site was wrong. You should not use that as a base and claim that you lost 86 credit. But now when I think more about that we should have reset negative credit to 0 to make everyone happy.

I sometimes see joto himself withdrawing gifts for some careless buyers, who rejected their offers or something (i saw record in forum where user stated that he bought tradable dead rising 2 from me and rejected it and i later saw joto withdrawing it). I also recount credit when withdrawing keys, so stealing from credit (or me stealing from dispenser) is also unlikely.

This makes sense I think. But I wonder why not just re-send using the bots' account itself when he's already logged in instead of taking it to his account to take it out then adjust the record. It's clean history than seeing his account taking something out make it look like a stealing act.

Anyway, I'm sure Joto will explain this more to zkminut. He might be just way too busy on other matters. Maybe dispenser.tf needs a ticket system too? But forum might be better still so we can all see what's going on... :)

If not some users claim that they can never receive anything from the bot, I would not bother taking items out and send them, really. That is just more work. It is not about "resend", some people seem can never receive anything from the site.

Also I do not really have to log in to the bots to send myself items. So using the site to send myself items and resend them to buyers could work better here.

I'm very thanks about precious opinion slenzles and ultrazars

also thanks to joto



Three gifts not were loaded in the web,and they were not loaded although I did report it

and they were disappeared without any notice after a while

Please understand my misunderstanding, I did not have choice


now I'm glad to it was misunderstanding

Thanks to all